Gently squeeze the reed blades closed if they are too open. Binding. Flatten chin and point it down . How to buy an Oboe: Background and 4-Step Guide, What band directors wish they knew about teaching oboe, Oboe and Double Reed Repair People Across America, Why Does the Oboe Tune the Orchestra? Tie length. Molds will often show up as fruiting bodies or black colonies, while bacteria will often form films along the inside of the reed. Work mindfully and remember to isolate only one variable at a time. For an oboe reed to work at it's best (vibrate at its optimum level) it needs the be correctly balanced; the reed should have the same thickness of cane on both front and back blades and on each half of both blades (see diagram, left).. Oboe reeds are expensive and it can be painful to have to get a new reed so often. Additionally bacterial growth inside the reed can effectively make the opening smaller as the biofilms coat the inside cavity of the reed. Place the pencil mark at the top of your staple (oval)/mandrel & wind to just below the mark; the caliper will ensure you don’t go over this mark. Made to order by a team of professional oboists in Chicago. My hypothesis is that very soft cane “balloons” open when tied onto the staple while rigid, hard cane would hold its shape and diameter. I gouge with a Dan Ross gouger & tie my reeds at 75 mm on Stevens pro-brass 47 mm using the David Weber 1B shaper. In order of priority, here is what I would check…. This is sometimes referred to as “breaking in the reed” when the reed is new and is a natural part of the lifecycle of the reed. Quality handmade oboe & English horn reeds, tube cane, gouged & shaped cane, oboe music, accessories and more. Solution : Get a new reed. I know that there are certain reed-makers who insist on pulling the thread with all their might, but that doesn’t work for me. If I clip off the portion of the tip that has loose sides in an attempt to cut off the loose sides and fix the problem, the sides of the clipped reed then become loose. If still too hard, scrape a very little amount of reed. Leaking (air escaping) Most of the time, the fold seems to be pretty clean, no shreds. In my experience, letting blanks dry overnight before clipping them usually leads to reeds with more manageable (less huge) openings. Check the opening of the reed. The resulting dynamic should be mezzo-piano or very close to it. As always keep a few reeds broken in and in rotation. We also offer private lessons in the Chicago area. If the reed is too open squeeze the tip closed between the thumb and index finger for 30 seconds An “easy” reed (or beginning/student/soft reed) is almost always scraped too thin, making the vibrations easier to achieve without much air support. If the reed has a wire this is easily changed: Firstly soak the reed briefly then a)If the reed closes up from playing the reed will then feel thin. Likewise if the reed is too closed—- but in the reverse, of course—- gently squeeze it open from edges of the two blades, only if you’re sure that it’s wet! It doesn’t make me special or anything, but it does give me perspective on what works, what doesn’t and some of the most common obstacles that can keep you from enjoying your oboe reeds. Plus the oboe reeds I make myself. As you get above 5,000 feet, and often into a dry climate, the reeds will vibrate less. Demonstration to the right. Any cracks in the reed will render it flat and useless. Bethany shows you how to fix an oboe reed that's playing too flat in this quick tip video. The tip of the reed is the thinnest part of the reed. A thin and sloped tip allow the reed to give a warm sound with easy response. Medium Student oboe reeds are good for students in with 2-6 years of playing experience. Home › Forums › Reeds › The Oboe Reed Room › Top of oboe reed will not close This topic has 10 replies, 5 voices, and was last updated 9 years, 4 months ago by Andrew R. Nogal. Reed too closed . How to Balance an Oboe Reed. C. Corners of the mouth are turned up (in a smile) 1. All of my reeds end up appallingly open at the tip. We’ve noticed the quality of pretty much all the European cane (Rigotti, Loree, Pisoni, Alliaud, Glotin) all be pretty bad in the last year. ... Find out why Close. Ideally, the sides should close with the string still one wind below the top of the tube. A crack is certainly the death of a reed. As a result, my reeds are basically unplayable, being that they require a great amount of air and are always flat. If the opening is too small the reed may not accept the air stream and the low notes will feel labored and unstable. A reed that is no longer functional has three key indicators that will reveal if it needs replacing. Unfortunately, I don’t believe that there’s any way to “scrape out” the traits of a badly tied blank, no matter how good one’s knife technique may be. A crack is usually obvious. If the reed is too open, you can try and close it down a bit by putting the plaque in and squeezing a tiny bit. All of my reeds end up looking the same. Maybe you need to adjust the diameter of cane you’re using, move up to 10.5 to 11 range if you’re at the 10-10.5 range now. I always check to make sure my reed's hole is a football shape and it's not too open or too closed, and even though I know it's at a good shape, the tone I … ... Find out why Close. Whenever I play oboe, it's kind of like a "gamble." However the environment of the reed can allow some germs to proliferate beyond the point of control. And how to do it right. The result will be a … Often when I start beginners I provide them with a reed to learn their first notes on. Oboe Reeds. Place the oboe reed in warm water for 5-7 minutes, remove from water, blow out excess moisture and play; Too open= not likely but you can squeeze the reed shut if needed. IF THE REED TOO FREE: Try clipping the tip of the reed and readjust. If you need to order reeds, click here to go to the shop where I sell handmade reeds. The SOAKED oboe reed may benefit from being squeezed shut for 30-45 seconds for the first few playing sessions. I’m not sure what we can do with this observation. D. Reed Problem: 1. Hi Andrew, thanks so much for responding. Oboists, we feel for you: and not just because of the double-reed misery, the duck noises, the … If the reed is too hard too open too closed 1. However, inexperienced reed makers should not try this. 1. This is opposed by the rails of the reed which pull clockwise to a neutral and stable result. I have been to a few teachers but the problem has pretty much stumped them. For tips on making the reeds last longer and getting the most out of your reed check out this article I wrote by clicking here. As the cane is played and ages the cane loses some strength but the thread does not wear away. Then, the reed works like a snapdragon–squeeze at the bottom and the top pops open. I have other strategies for getting the most life from your reeds in an article I wrote which you can read by clicking here. It seems like this might weaken the opening, too, to give you a fighting chance of having tighter sides. There is no remedy. Slight variations in temperature, altitude, weather, and climate can also have an effect on the sound of the reed, as well as minute changes in the physique of the reed. Don't try to influence the tone in any way. Hi Laura, I know that problems like this one can be extremely frustrating and mysterious. Skip navigation Sign in. For Oboe, look at the tip opening. Then in my lesson I ended up tying a reed, using a music stand as an anchor. If it is too loud, the reed will be too hard to play easily; if it is too soft, the reed will feel "limited" and not project well. Soaking the reed for more than a few minutes can cause the cane to expand too much leaving the reed flat, stoggy, and resistant. Turn corners of mouth down . I noticed that her reed-tying was not causing nearly as much disturbance and movement of the music stand as my tying was, so I tried lessening the tension on my string. Mold…enough said…. The angle of the head (too high or too low) (angle of the oboe in the mouth –bring it down) 2. Squeeze the wire, using your fingers, from the front … Copyright © 1995 - 2020 International Double Reed Society. How to Fix a Flat Oboe Reed Jones Double Reed … Instead, the “shushed” young oboist will bite the (too easy) reed, which will make the pitch soar and close the opening of the reed, which greatly reduces their ability to articulate notes. The reed should be soaked for all of the following steps. I have experimented with tying the reeds tightly and loosely, but neither way seemed to make a difference. When the cane seems soft, I also observe that the size of the opening changes dramatically after the dry reed has been soaked. The angle of the head (too high or too low) (angle of the oboe in the mouth –bring it down) 2. Soak new reeds in warm water for one minute. If the reed becomes too hard, the next time try … From the oboe reed critiques that I offer to all of the reed shipments from our reedmakers. Shave off the ears with your reed knife, scrape both sides of the tip & clip open. Viewing 11 posts - 1 through 11 (of 11 total). Home › Forums › Reeds › The Oboe Reed Room › Top of oboe reed will not close. Might the cane itself (twistyness, hardness, density?) At first only the low notes will stop working and eventually nothing will sound right. The reed is considered the part of oboe that makes the instrument so difficult because the individual nature of each reed means that it is hard to achieve a consistent sound. Gradually increase the air pressure until the reed speaks by itself. If anyone has been through anything like this with oboe reeds, your input would be greatly appreciated! Tying the reed on longer has the opposite effect. Using rubbing alcohol or hydrogen peroxide may keep them at bay temporarily but this is not a long term solution. Singin’ Dog is a well-known maker of oboe reeds, and this particular reed is entirely handmade. Make sure the overlap is correct. The oboe is officially one of the most difficult instruments to play. You can prevent these growths by soaking your reeds in a reed soaker, or cup,  instead of your mouth. If you have any other questions or stories of reeds gone bad, please let me know in the comments. As John said, tie as long as possible. For tips on making the reeds last longer and getting the most out of your reed check out this article I wrote by clicking here. Bethany shows you how to fix an oboe reed that's playing too flat in this quick tip video. They will not close no matter how hard I try to squeeze them. The reed vibrates hundreds of times a second and a week grain in the cane can be convinced to come apart by these undulating waves through the material. Is the cane warped? I'm a beginner on oboe and I have my first concert on Dec. 6. Reeds naturally close down a bit when played on anyway. I have been using the Gilbert gouge and the Lucarelli and Brannen-x shapes. The opening of a reed will collapse overtime so there is a limited window (10-15 hours of playing, or 40 hours or so of not playing) when the reed will have an optimal opening. This leads to sharpness and makes the reed harder to blow through. Keep the cane well moistened throughout this process. The opening of the reed is stabilized by two main opposing forces. Each one is thoughtfully put together to help provide you with the best tone possible, and the only use the highest quality Arundo donax cane available to help ensure the best handmade oboe reed. It sounds like you are already doing this. And the best part of it is that the instruments can tilt easily for fast removal due to the padded lining. While single reed players may replace their reeds every few days. All Rights Reserved. Reeds are not meant to last forever and by keeping a rotation of reeds in your reed case you can sound your best. Literally everytime I play, I'm always going to start out being either super sharp or super flat. Soak the reed for 1-3 minutes or until the reed is the correct strength – a shorter amount of time if the reed is newer, and longer if the reed is older or more closed. However, for about the past 6 months I have been experiencing a recurring problem with every single reed that I make. I tend to scrape the corners of the tip before setting the blank aside. A few reeds can help you feel ready for anything. Clip the tip of the reed (using a knife or razor blade), a little at a time till the crow is a “C” pitch. After you have selected the cane for straightness and chopped it to length, lay the piece bark-side down on a flat surface. Place the reed in your mouth down to the string and blow. You can store up to 8 Oboe Reeds in this protective case. These online oboe lessons are for Premium Reed Maker and Premium Reed Maker-Month members only. Possible Cause: Either the reed is too closed (and likely old), and/or the embouchure is too tight. be a contributing factor to your tip opening woes? The tip of the reed may become frayed from trauma of tonguing and knicks from the reed case or hands. To open the reed squeeze the wire, using your fingers, gently from the sides. Diagnosing Common Oboe Reed Problems. Skip navigation Sign in. The reed is organic fuel for many micro-organisms that live harmlessly in your mouth or the air kept in check by your immune system and competition from other microbes. Hi Laura — This can be maddening and the source of the problem difficult to track down, as you are finding. Remove from water and shake out excess water. Before fixing any problems, start by checking that the reed is not too open of too closed. If it’s still too open, gently squeeze the sides of the string with pliers. 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